Kristopher Dean Onorati, 32, of Joel Road in Carthage charged with conspiracy to commit robbery and assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious injury [June 2017]

It’s becoming clear why everyone wanted a plea deal…

“During the robbery, (one of the suspects’) vehicle drove off with the victim hanging out the window…then the victim fell out of the car while moving, he was dragged by the vehicle.” Police report

Police believe Onorati was driving the vehicle.

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12 thoughts on “Kristopher Dean Onorati, 32, of Joel Road in Carthage charged with conspiracy to commit robbery and assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious injury [June 2017]

  1. Wow, this family, has so many different names and addresses.
    Now alot of crimes.
    Maybe Phil should bring Frank and Sandi back on to discuss their dysfunction crime family. The public should be aware of them, and all the monies wasted on them…. fundraising, tv shows, interviews.
    No wonder Shanann was Shady.

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  2. There’s so much instability, denial, and delusion on Shanann’s side of the family. I don’t understand why they think they’re any better than Chris’ side. It’s all dysfunction when it it comes down to it. If both mother weren’t so controlling and delusional, they probably could have been good friends.

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    • A major part of the problem is the lack of honesty, openness, transparency [whatever you want to call it] in not being able to admit their were problems or that things weren’t that great. In other words, the effort to prop up the appearance of a fairy tale. MLM and the psychology inherent to that [magical thinking] has a lot to do with it, but so does one’s family background.

      On Dr. Phil the family sketch another perfect portrait, and I can tell you, I’ve had people hate on me for criticizing the family’s sentiment in the show. The thing is, when you have a crime like this, sentiment isn’t going to get you through.

      Which is why this happened:

      True crime is about the failure of human beings to deal with their own realities. One of the ways to deal with it is to simply try to accept it for what it is. Imperfect. Ugly. But a work in progress. All of us are.

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    • They think they’re better than Chris because no one in their family has committed a triple homicide, most likely. I also have heard them talk much less shit about Chris’s family than the Watts family has, when you’d think they’d have more grounds to do so. I have heard little shit-talking about his family from them. Everyone in this story is guilty of being delusional and of magical thinking, I agree with Nick, but every parent also does that when their child dies. Actually everyone does that when they know someone that died suddenly, particularly by murder. If you’ve watched any crime shows people idealize the victim. Frankie seems emotionally honest to me.

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  3. Why would this have to do with the plea deal? Someone in their extended family was arrested the previous year, for something bad sure, but I highly doubt they were considering that at the time. If my cousin did something like that, and someone killed my family, I wouldn’t be thinking “well, ok I’ll agree, I don’t want them to know about my nephew or my son’s history.” They were probably thinking of bigger things like “do we want to be complicit in the death of someone we once loved” or “do we want to hear the details about how our daughter and grandchildren were killed?” If the defense would even bring it up at trial, which I’m not sure would be admissible or seen as relevant, as well as Shanaan’s “criminal history” involving traffic violations, the response would be crickets. Unless Rourke was out and out lying at a press conference, the defense approached them. It doesn’t sound like either family is happy about that now.

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  4. Yea, I’ve got a huge family, 58 first cousins, Italian families are often very large as well. Some I wouldn’t know if I met them on the street, I’d hardly be thinking of any of them if my daughter and grandchildren were just murdered. If a defense attorney tried to compare that to watts I think no one would give a crap except maybe the watts family


    • If a defense attorney tried to compare that to watts I think no one would give a crap except maybe the watts family. >>>You have a point. Maybe in the Watts family at Saratoga trail no one gave a crap about certain crimes of various family members, and so there was this perception one could get away with murder. Or is your argument that it’s completely irrelevant?


      • The post said it’s becoming clear why everyone wanted a plea deal. I’m saying solely that if your daughter and grandchildren were murdered your priority would not be to get her killer a plea deal so your nephews crime wouldn’t be exposed, if it’s even her nephew. Could be some first or second cousins kid. Whether it had affected how Chris and Shan’ann thought was not what I was addressing, it’s whether it affected family seeking the plea deal


        • I take it you’re unfamiliar with the child abuse charges against Frankie Rzucek? Or if you aren’t, do you think that’s not a big deal either, or irrelevant?

          I agree with you though, if your family was murdered, most people wouldn’t give the thumbs up to a plea deal which essentially lets the killer off the hook from accounting for his crimes in a court of law.


          • That’s swapping cases. Your comment before this was not that they wanted a plea deal because of Frankie. It was that “it’s becoming clear why everyone wanted a plea deal” in reference to this relative, distant or close. Had it been before Frankie’s charge I’d say yea, possibly. But even with that charge I would question whether you’d want a plea deal for your daughters and grandchildren’s murder to keep Frankie’s charge hid which would be just for the press as it likely wouldn’t be admissible in the trial. Both families have skeletons in the closet, in big families you are certain to find someone who isn’t the most law abiding citizen. I’m sure there’s some in mine, it’s far too big to know what cousin might have had a brush with the law, same could be with this family


            • Please don’t put words in my mouth. I don’t think having various relatives with criminal records or charges would be something the Rzuceks would want to come to light. It’s easy to be nonchalant on this issue if the charges are for someone else’s relatives. If you think they wouldn’t mind that, and that it didn’t factor into this case you’re allowed to.

              But then what is your explanation for why the Rzuceks enthusiastically endorsed a plea deal that got the murderer of their grandchildren and daughter out of court?

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