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April 27th, 2019

1. AJ Freund cause of death released, parents bond set at $5M each for Joann Cunningham, Andrew Freund, Sr. – ABC7

A 5-year-old boy was found in a shallow grave. A look into his short life reveals a series of injustices – CNN

2. The Tragic Fate of Vincent Van Gogh’s Model and Muse Is Revealed in a New Book – Art Net

April 26th, 2019


1. A bidding war breaks out as Occidental Petroleum makes $38 billion offer for Anadarko, topping Chevron’s (APC) –  Markets Insider

Anadarko Changed CEO’s Potential Payout Before Chevron Deal – Bloomberg


2. Madeleine McCann DNA test fails to produce match dashing hopes – Daily Star

Madeleine McCann: Over-hyped DNA-17 is ‘really old’ tech that can’t solve Maddie case, expert claims – 9News

Madeleine McCann: The statistic that gives McCanns hope –

April 23rd, 2019

1. The FBI Crack Chris Watts Into Finally Confessing – Key Interrogation Room Moments

The Watts’ home had been assessed at close to $550,000 at one time, but public records now put that number at $484,339 – Daily Mail

2. Madeleine McCann: Why UK cops won’t release key DNA samples for vital tests – Daily Star

What happened to Madeleine McCann, what are the theories on her disappearance and what’s the latest in the investigation? – The Sun

April 20th, 2019

1. Convicted murderer Chris Watts explains what made him snap

2. Police say Kelsey Berreth’s remains were not found in landfill – CNN

3. Madeleine McCann parents’ fury after sick trolls set up Instagram account to mock missing toddler for twisted ‘likes’ – The Sun

Madeleine McCann’s parents rented a car after her disappearance, drove 9,000 miles in four months raising suspicion – meaaww

Madeleine McCann: How Gerry suggested what ‘best scenario’ would be after disappearance – The Express

April 19th, 2019

1. Visiting the Chris Watts Locations

2. Madeleine McCann: Media and legal ‘machine’ hit cop who led Maddie case

April 18th, 2019

1. Prison Responds To Petition Asking For Photos Of Chris Watts’ Dead Family To Be Removed From His Cell – Oxygen

Prison officials have “no legal basis for removing the photographs from Christopher Watts,” the Wisconsin Department of Corrections said in a statement obtained by People. Watts was transferred to Wisconsin late last year for safety concerns.

While arguably tasteless, the photos don’t technically break the rules.

2. Mueller: Obstruction by Trump failed when staffers defied him – CNN


3. Two stolen Van Gogh paintings are finally returning to public view after 17 years – CNN

Stolen Van Gogh works return to public display after 17 years – The Guardian

4. Copycat attempt: New York man tries to burn down St. Patrick’s CathedralNew York Times


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April 17th, 2019

1. Chris Watts Raw Unedited K9 Search Footage

2. Madeleine McCann: What gives Kate and Gerry McCann hope Maddie WILL be found – The Express

Why it can be hard for police to admit they have been wrong – 9News

April 16th, 2019

1. Auction of Chris Watts’ Frederick home delayed until summer – Greeley Tribune

Raw Unedited Body Cam Videos From Chris Watts Case

2. Madeleine McCann: How Kate and Gerry recorded heartbreaking message for missing daughter – The Express

A Door Marked Closed 


April 15th, 2019

1. Chris Watts says he went into the house through the garage to open the front door…

Inside the mind of a killer: Psychology experts discuss Chris Watts’ behavior following family’s murder

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2. A Night Less Starry- The Auction of Van Gogh’s Gun – Art Net

There is a bleakness to the reality that many artists are valued more in death than in life; that what they offered the world was not truly cherished until it became preciously finite. It is hard to think of what the man who sold only one painting in his lifetime would think of the €40-60,000 predicted price tag on his suicide weapon. While many a person would jump at the chance to be one of Van Gogh’s posthumous patrons, the acquisition of the gun he chose to end his suffering with seems to be an entirely different desire. But perhaps not. Perhaps it’s not dissimilar to the purchasing or beholding of one of his heartfelt works- especially with the understanding of the emotional turmoil that swam through him- where one can sense the will of a troubled man in his journey to find and create beauty despite all his sorrow. Perhaps the prospective buyer wishes nothing more than to feel a closeness and an understanding of that intangible wonder: the will of Van Gogh.

Would a rusty weapon imputed as a suicide tool bring someone closer to knowing the “will of Van Gogh”? Perhaps. Perhaps the rust destroying reality over time is a code, after all, for something useful.

What would Vincent van Gogh think of this business of this gun fetching so much money, given his art when he was alive, could not? My guess is he would be hopping mad. More proof of that is in The Murder of Vincent van Gogh.

3. Should this bird be charged with murder? – CNN


April 14th, 2019

1. Chris Watts case updates.

2. Why Hunting JonBenet’s Killer: The Untold Story Host Elizabeth Vargas Thinks the Case Can Still Be Solved – EOnline

April 13th, 2019

1. Scott Reisch LIVE discussing the Watts Family Photos in Watts’ prison cell.

Was Chris Watts’ mistress bipolar?

2.  Outrage as idiot films herself pretending to find Madeleine McCann while on holiday in Portugal – The Sun

3. Julian Schnabel takes on the life of Van Gogh – Apollo Magazine

…director Julian Schnabel makes us feel what it’s like to live as his Van Gogh. As one might expect, it’s a stressful experience. All the more so since the film is shot on a handheld camera, its jerky motion mirroring the artist’s febrile state. The palette is polarised, either dazzling us with the bright colours of the south, pushed to the extreme, or subduing us with a melancholic blue-grey filter. No even keel for Vincent, or for us. When his ‘frenemy’ Paul Gauguin (Oscar Isaac) asks ‘What’s the rush?’ during another frenzied painting scene, Vincent’s answer is to reel off a list of masters – Franz Hals, Goya, Velázquez, Veronese, Delacroix – who all ‘paint fast, in one, clear gesture’. Long, continuous takes make the film feel correspondingly immediate and organic, even dizzying.

But the flip side to enduring the stress of being Van Gogh is of course the beauty; of seeing the world through his eyes (which the camera often simulates): the wind through wheat or a line of poplars; craggy rocks in a landscape; the texture of scuffed leather boots and terracotta tiles. We’re down in the dirt with him as he lies in a field, smearing earth over his face with relish. And this is the point of Schnabel’s film – why else the need for another Van Gogh biopic, of which there have been three notable versions already.

At Eternity’s Gate focuses on the tumultuous last two years of the artist’s life, spent mainly in Arles and in Auvers-sur-Oise.


4. From the archives:

Oscar’s 31 seconds of silence – News24

Thirty-one seconds – that’s how long Oscar Pistorius was silent for when asked by Prosecutor Gerrie Nel if he heard Reeva Steenkamp scream after he fired the first of four shots that killed her. Late on the second day of what has been a sustained and brutal cross-examination, Nel said: “Are you sure, Mr Pistorius, that Reeva didn’t scream after you fired the first shot?”

Oscar slumped back in his chair and kept quiet for 31 seconds. Court GD in Pretoria was ­utterly silent. On the audio recording, all that can be heard is Nel again asking “Are you sure?” after five seconds of silence had passed. Eleven seconds later, a man can be heard taking a deep breath and slowly exhaling. Surprisingly, it is Nel who breaks the silence to come to Pistorius’ rescue, saying: “My Lady, I’m ­giving the witness time to console himself, he is distressed”.

“I wouldn’t have done that,” said an ­experienced former prosecutor. “I would have kept quiet and counted and then when he finally said something, I would have said: ‘That took you four and a half minutes. What were you thinking about?’’’

I thought that was the moment he was going to crack, the former prosecutor added. This piece of evidence is key. If Pistorius’ ears were ringing and he? couldn’t even have heard himself scream after the shots, as he had testified, then he can’t tell the court that three other witnesses didn’t hear her scream during the shots.

Saving Pistorius from his silence was a rare show of mercy from Nel, who during a turbulent two days of cross-examination compared a photograph of Steenkamp’s bloodied head to an exploding watermelon, called the athlete a liar and laughed openly at one of his responses. Before his 31 seconds of silence, Pistorius twice became emotional as Nel carefully picked apart the improbabilities in his story.

If Nel hadn’t have given Pistorius a break, Oscar would likely have become more emotional, allowing Judge Masipa a chance to call a recess. Nel didn’t want that to happen either. So it was a careful chess game between pushing the accused and getting him emotional, but not so emotional that the Judge intervened on his behalf…

What is the TCRS take on Oscar Pistorius’ Murder Trial? The  5-Part Book Series is available at this link.


April 11th, 2019

1. Give it until 2:30 for this video on Chris Watts to get going. Valid points raised regarding Watts being informed from the outside about what’s being said and vaunted on social media. Interesting that “Nut Gate” was a term first raised on social media as well.

2. Scotland Yard could be sitting on Maddie mystery ‘game changer’ – 9News

Madeleine McCann: Why Kate McCann feared ‘someone was watching’ holiday apartment – The Express

3. WikiLeaks Cofounder Julian Assange Arrested

Julian Assange, a Man Without a Country – The New Yorker

During the Presidential election last year, he published tens of thousands of hacked e-mails written by Democratic operatives, releasing them at pivotal moments in the campaign. They provoked strikingly disparate receptions. “I love WikiLeaks,” Donald Trump declared, in exultant gratitude. After the election, Hillary Clinton argued that the releases had been instrumental in keeping her from the Oval Office.

Shortly after Trump’s Inauguration, I flew to London, to visit Assange—the first of several trips, and many hours of interviews, to better understand how he runs WikiLeaks, how he has been living, how his political views have changed, and what role Russia has had in his operation. Even as a new inquiry opened into possible collusion between Trump-campaign operatives and Russia, “the WikiLeaks connection,” as James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, put it last year, remained obscure.

Assange is not an easy man to get on the phone, let alone to see in person. He is protected by a group of loyal staffers and a shroud of organizational secrecy…

4. Major Vincent van Gogh Retrospective Beckons in Houston – ArtNews

As the catalogue for “Vincent van Gogh: His Life in Art,” a momentous new show at the Museum of Fine Arts in Houston, Texas, puts it: “It was most likely a combination of deep disquiet that Theo might no longer be able to look out for him, a growing sense of loneliness, and fear that his nervous attacks would return that drove van Gogh to shoot himself in the chest on July 27, 1890, with the intention of ending his life. He died of his injuries two days later, with Theo at his bedside.

The mainstream motive for why Van Gogh committed suicide is that he didn’t want to be a burden to his brother [who had just started a family]. Even the Van Gogh Museum support this idea. It makes sense except – how was committing suicide [and botching it up so he took 30 hours to die] lessening the burden? If Van Gogh didn’t want his brother to be troubled by his existence, then Theo rushing to his brother’s aid during a life-and-death emergency, only to watch his brother die, and have to pay for his funeral [suicide was regarded as disgraceful in 1890’s France] didn’t achieve that goal.

Van Gogh’s funeral and the disgrace around his suicide was a huge burden, financial, societal and emotional, that his brother and family had to bear.

April 9th, 2019

1. Just published!

2. Undercover investigator claims ‘nobody left the table’ to check kids on night Maddie disappeared – 9News

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A US private investigator who worked undercover at the holiday resort where Madeleine McCann vanished has made claims that appear to cast doubt on the controversial parental checking system Kate, Gerry and the Tapas 7 told police they were conducting on the night the three-year-old vanished.

In a remarkable interview on the Maddie podcast, Boston-based investigator Joseph Moura claimed a bartender and waitress who served the McCanns and their friends at the now infamous tapas restaurant on May 3 told him “nobody left the table that evening”.

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Kate and Gerry McCann clocked up 11,000km in rental car where dogs alerted – 9News

Does Netflix’s The Disappearance Of Madeleine McCann Mark A Turning Point In The True Crime Genre? – The Georgetown Voice

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3. The Victim on BBC: Anna Dean’s ’emotional journey’ REVEALED as creator spills all – The Express

April 8th, 2019

1. Online Petition Calls For Chris Watts To Remove Photos Of Murdered Family From Cell – CBS Denver

True Crime Garage // Christopher Watts

2. Maddie – Episode 8: The Missing Calls

3. The Gun That Killed Van Gogh Goes On Auction – Forbes

Lauded as the “the most famous weapon in art history,” the corroded, legendary revolver was discovered in 1965 by a farmer in the field where then-37-year-old Van Gogh was struck in the stomach by the bullet that killed him on July 29, 1890, in the village of Auvers-sur-Oise north of Paris.

The seven-millimeter gun, reportedly kept by the family that owned the Auberge Ravoux inn where the artist lived for the final months of his life, was put on public display for the first time during the 2016 exhibition On the Verge Off Insanity at the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam. The farmer who found it presumably gave it to the owners of the inn, whose descendants are now selling it.

“The severely corroded weapon is a Belgian-manufactured Lefaucheux pinfire revolver, which was among the most popular civilian handguns in the second half of the 19th century,” writes the Art Newspaper. “It remained in production until 1893.”

According to the auction house, there are several pieces of evidence to prove it was Van Gogh’s suicide gun. “It was discovered where Van Gogh shot it; its caliber is the same as the bullet retrieved from the artist’s body as described by the doctor at the time; scientific studies demonstrate that the gun had stayed in the ground since the 1890s.”

But is it – forensically speaking – the actual killing/murder weapon?

April 7th, 2019

1. Mitch Summers, an ex-classmate of Chris Watts in high school [now a video producer] released this prom photo of Watts.

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2. EXCLUSIVE: Maddie McCann podcast triggers dramatic offer from US lab to solve 18 vital DNA samples – 9News

Following an investigation by, a formal request from one of the world’s leading DNA scientists has been lodged with London Metropolitan Police for access to 18 complex DNA samples which are potentially loaded with vital clues about Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

There is hope that Dr Mark Perlin’s powerful computational DNA testing methods could blow open the cold case by successfully cracking the 18 samples which frustratingly stumped a UK lab in 2007.

In Dr Perlin’s email to Detective Chief Inspector Nicola Wall, who heads up Operation Grange, the UK strike force investigating Madeleine’s disappearance, he confirmed he would conduct analysis of the 18 samples for no cost. Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange, launched in 2011, has cost British taxpayers more than $20 million and it has recently requested further funding from the UK Home Office.

3. New OJ Simpson film will reveal who really killed star’s ex-wife Nicole Brown and prove he was victim of a conspiracy, Brit director claims – The Sun

April 6th, 2019



2. GONE IN A FLASH  Madeleine McCann casebook – the seven key clues and questions that investigators hoped would lead to Maddie – The Sun

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The Sun pretends here to analyse seven different theories about what happened to Madeleine McCann. In the middle of the list of seven theories is the theory of the lead detective. The Sun refers to this theory as a “crackpot” theory, the only one of the seven theories to be singled out in this manner. Why do you think that is? An unlikely theory, or a newspaper pandering to their cash cow?

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Madeleine McCann: An ID Murder Mystery, Premieres Sunday, April 7, 9/8c, ID – TV Insider

3. I walked past that drain many times, not knowing my child’s body was there – Orderick Lucas’s mom – News24

April 4th, 2019

1. Lawyer [on Dr. Phil] says [Watts claimed] 4-year-old saw Chris Watts strangle her mother, Shan’ann – ABC

Commentary of the Chris Watts case courtesy of YouTube.

2.  Madeleine McCann’s complaint which ‘puzzled’ Kate and Gerry before her disappearance – The Mirror

Madeleine McCann left crying in bedroom the night before she went missing – The Mirror

Mrs Fenn’s statement, taken in Praia da Luz on the 20th of August 2007 – PJFiles

[Mrs Fenn] refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger. Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted “Daddy, Daddy”, the witness had no doubt that the noise came from the floor below. At about 23.45, an hour and fifteen minutes after the crying began, she heard the parents arrive, she did not see them, but she heard the patio doors open, she was quite worried as the crying had gone on for more than an hour and had gradually got worse….That night [Fenn] contacted a friend called EDNA GLYN, who also lives in Praia da Luz, after 23.00, telling her about the situation…

3. The Revolver That Killed Vincent van Gogh Is Going Up for Auction This Summer – Art Net

Recently, however, speculation that he was actually killed accidentally by two boys playing with the gun have been fueled by the artist Julian Schnabeland the screenwriter of Schnabel’s Van Gogh biopic At Eternity’s Gate. The pair believe that the number of paintings the artist produced in his final months does not match up to someone who was suicidally depressed, and their film shows this alternative ending to the troubled artist’s storied career.

But the auction house dismisses this suggestion. “The new theory about the killing is based on testimonies given several years after Van Gogh’s death,” the AuctionArt spokesperson says. “It has been deeply criticized by all the Van Gogh specialists, among them the Van Gogh Museum and Alain Rohan, who wrote a book about the gun.”


€40,000–60,000 is on the line if the weapon was used by Van Gogh in a self-inflicted gunshot. And if he was murdered? How much would the gun be worth then? Double? Or zero?

Van Gogh was MURDERED, says forensic expert – Daily Mail

Van Gogh’s death still controversial – TulsaWorld

Gun used by Vincent van Gogh to kill himself goes on display – Irish Times

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Original or fake? Experts disagree on authenticity of new Van Gogh sketches –

Art experts are squabbling over whether a set of previously unpublished drawings are the work of Dutch artist Vincent Van Gogh. The Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam says the sketches are complete fakes. Welsh-Ovcharov, a Canadian professor of art history and Van Gogh specialist, told reporters she was convinced the sketches were authentic, describing the discovery as an “OMG moment.”

“I started to look through all the drawings and each one had his fingerprint,” she said. But according to the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam, they are mere imitations and contain no trace of the Dutch master.

Is this newly discovered Van Gogh sketchbook real? The Van Gogh Museum thinks they’re not. Which is a relief. It would have been a truly shocking revelation if they had been genuine: that Vincent could be this bad – The Spectator

April 2nd, 2019

1. “Insider ” from Chris Watts jail

2. MADDIE RIDDLE Madeleine McCann may have been snatched by burglars after ‘waking up and disturbing them during spate of break-ins in the area’ – The Sun

April 1st, 2019

  1. “But…it was like insanely fast [the pregnancy]. I give it that…” – Chris Watts

What’s not in the shadows.

2. Never heard before court audio reveals the battle and consequences of the McCanns’ feud with lead Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral.

3. A college student got into a car she thought was her Uber, police say. She was found dead in a field – CNN


4. On 30 March we celebrate Vincent van Gogh’s birthday. How did Vincent celebrate his birthday? – Van Gogh Museum

5. Dr. Phil Interviews Bestselling Author of Chris Watts Book Series [Airs Monday]



  1. I remember when this little Madeleine girl disappeared. I didn’t follow the story and haven’t read anything about it and I know less than 1/8 about what happened but when the reporter asked the McCanns “did you murder your daughter” why did the mother immediately look at the father as if to see what the answer is? Or should be? That looked like she was looking to him for the answer. I’ve done that myself when asked a question and I wasn’t quite sure what I should say, I would look at whomever I was sure knew the answer. Interesting

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    • Karen the unsolved McCann case is Britain’s version of the JonBenet Ramsey story. In my opinion it’s even crazier, because after eleven years and over £11 million pounds spent on searching for her, she’s considered the most expensive missing person case in history.

      The McCanns maintain their daughter is still alive out there – think of it as the kidnapping phase of the Ramsey case multiplied over years, and now the years are hitting double digits, but there’s still hope! The search continues! Oh and no Ransom Note.

      The Daily Telegraph in 2008 described the search for Madeleine as the most heavily reported missing-person case in modern history.And yet cadaver dogs picked up cadaver traces inside the McCanns’ Ocean Club apartment – in the cupboard of the bedroom, behind the couch in the living room, in the garden under the balcony, in the trunk of the rental they hired a few weeks after the incident, on the key of the rental, on Madeleine’s cuddly cat [a favorite toy], inside the villa they hired and on certain items of Kate McCann’s clothing.

      If you’re interested in the Rocket Science analysis of this case, consider reading the DOUBT trilogy.

      When DOUBT was published in 2017, on the 10 year anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance, DOUBT was a #2 bestseller on’s overall True Crime category, edging out the McCann’s book throughout this critical period.

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  2. I’m sure you already know this but I don’t see it posted here. Chris Watt’s court appearance has been moved up from Nov 19 to next Tuesday Nov 6. Interesting how his appearance is now scheduled for Election Day. Is someone hoping there will be less media coverage/interest due to all the coverage on the election?

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      • So far I’m rather disappointed in the presentation of the State’s heads. I feel VN placed too much focus on certain aspects and far too little on other (far more damning) points. Perhaps Judge Salie-Hlope’s constant interjection threw him off his game… I feel his overall argument lacked certainty and left far too much ambiguity (if that makes sense). How I wish our “learned friends” would put more effort into their delivery. I did enjoy reading your tweets and additional observations… It allows readers to see the bigger picture – the human picture.

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    • I think the Judge was also not happy. It’s a difficult horse to ride though, deliver quickly and succinctly but make time for being interrupted often…


  3. With so many major cases being ‘wrapped up’ this week (Watts, Rohde, Hannah Cornelius) I decided I needed something for the weekend. Can’t wait to sink my teeth into DOUBT. I’ve had so many opinions in the last 10+ years… time to see if they bear any weight.

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  4. Weld District Attorney’s Office says it will release autopsy reports in Watts case after sentencing
    The Weld District Attorney’s Office on Wednesday confirmed it will release the autopsy reports for Shanann, Bella and Celeste Watts following a scheduled sentencing hearing for Christopher Watts, Shanann’s husband and father of the two girls, who has pleaded guilty to killing all three.

    The sentencing hearing is scheduled for Nov. 19 and follows a Tuesday guilty plea entered by Watts in exchange for the death penalty being taken off the table in the case.


  5. Am I the only one here that thinks this has all been wrapped up so quickly is because Chris told his lawyers the truth and they went to the prosecutor with a deal (twice) and that’s why Chris just rolled over? I feel like I’m the only one who thinks he isn’t getting a trial because he doesn’t want one and just wants this to be done


    • Yea, I think he didn’t want all the info to come out, the fact that the neighbors camera never showed shanann ever leaving the house was all they needed. His truck was the only vehicle seen. Karma for him is it came out anyways in discovery being released. That interview with his parents when they were asked what happened to that boy they were describing and they replied he met shanann. So are they going to say now he changed cause he met Nichole? Who raised him that he could not seem to stand up for himself? His mother, she’s narcissistic and controlling as well


    • Maybe Chris ultimately wanted less publicity so as to increase his chances of surviving prison – low profile as it were, without details of the horrible killings of his children. He was intelligent but not smart – his attorneys may have pointed out that he could die in prison, sooner rather than later.


      • It didn’t work then, since i just read that an inmate was selling “Chris Watts’ semen-stained underwear” for $500 on Craigslist.


  6. Didnt the detectives double check the number Chris’s alleged male lover had for Chris against Chris’s cell phone numbers he had? He had a work and personal cell seems like it wouldn’t be hard just to verify the cell numbers.


  7. If Patrick Frazee is having a Public Defender represent him, from what I understand that means he wouldn’t have money to pay a lawyer. How does it work then with the Federal suit Kelsey’s parents have filed, if he has no money who would pay the amount they are seeking?


    • Does he own that property, though, or is it in his mother’s name? She lives on the property, too. Is there some reason Frazee would have put purchases in his mother’s name (tax break, bad credit, etc.)? If so, then a suit couldn’t touch that. I think it’s kind of complicated, as his mother might rely on that equipment for her livelihood. I dunno.


  8. Sometimes I think these lawsuits are filed more to make a point than anything else. Depositions can also show more than strict cross examinations in court. A “win” in one of these suits, if it occurs before the criminal trial, could help the prosecution pursue new leads. Plus, prevailing in the suit may even reduce the convicted killer’s chance of parole later on if there are bombshells in the depositions that can be publicized. It’s often all about public perception, and manipulating that.


  9. Maybe this was addressed somewhere else on here but I couldn’t find it. Why wasn’t Chris Watts guilty pleas on November 6th, 2018 allowed to be recorded like his other court dates?


  10. The most heartbreaking picture in the Watts story, to me, is the one above of little Cece hugging her Dad at the airport in NC. At that moment, she had days to live..

    I know how those little hugs feel…this is the purest love there is.

    Wonder if he remembers how that felt.


  11. @Nick I watched the video posted 1/23 about the Vivint Security and the camera that records data the homeowner can’t access or erase, but Vivint keeps for 3 months. Do you think CW was recorded carrying the bodies and police used this evidence?


    • Maura I think the cops are sitting on a lot of evidence.

      But I suspect Watts turned off the Vivint security between roughly 02:00 and 04:00. Same reason he probably turned off the router – to create digital black holes. It would be interesting to know if this turning on or off is logged anywhere. If he didn’t turn it off he may have “tricked the system”. For example placing a piece of paper over a motion sensor defeats its capability – simple, quick and easy to do.


  12. This is the person you just kicked out of your group… I come from a long line of convicted criminals. I spent years eye-to-eye counseling criminals in prisons (for free), have held the hands of killers who were terminally ill as they confessed their last before crossing over. I’m proud of this skill-set, but that’s not why I’m telling you this. I am telling you this for your benefit.


    • Ralph. The gay killer, no trial, jail. Hardly any info on this case. We don’t know where he killed them. He stangled, he staged the bodies, clothes, pictures. But no info on how he chopped up bodies. Only bones found in flower pots.
      Cops actually broke in after watching a guy go into his apt. The guy was naked, tied to the bed. He arrested.


  13. It was frustrating watching the trauma-sensing dog in the Watts basement on the video posted today. The bodycam work was so poor, it almost negates the whole purpose of that equipment. Put the damn camera on the dog, ffs.

    Noticed that the dog alerted at the area at the right of the base of the stairwell. Could Watts have lain in wait there when Shan’ann came home, the children already dead and stored in the refrigerator. Shan’an could have gone upstairs and not found anybody, then raced down to the basement where he waited.

    Being the clean freak he was, he could have prepared the area with sheets of plastic or just the bedsheets.

    Haven’t see any videos relating to the cadaver dogs’ findings in the basement.


  14. NVDL: pay no attention to the toxic “fans”! Your books and commentary are so fascinating. You said you may end the Watts coverage at the end of February. Does this mean the Annihilation and Oblivion books may not be available? Oh no!!!!!


  15. Nick, I agree with Susan.
    Don’t stop contributing your insightful, and incredible work!
    I look forward to reading your books!!
    I enjoy learning so much from the debates, introspect, and
    thought provoking style that you provide.
    Thank you for this!!


    • Thanks JH. I will be scaling down coverage of the Watts case from this point onwards. The books will continue though. I may cover the Frazee case next, later this month or I might not. Watch this space 😉

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  16. There is another case that sounds intriguing to me but I know you have your hands full. Ryan Widmer, who was convicted of drowning his newlywed wife in the bathtub (2008?). There is doubt though – there have been 3 trials and he’s still appealing. There are similarities to Watts – the couple appeared so happy together, etc. But shortly after marriage he claims she stopped taking an interest in his career, she had OCD, she wouldn’t let him so much as pick out a can of paint for the house and she had a strange illness that caused her to fall asleep at odd moments. Which was his defense of course – she fell asleep in the tub and drowned. In interviews Widmer seems disconnected, almost happy. There is a book out about it called “Submerged” and the author has changed her mind as to whether Ryan is guilty or not. There is so much crime to research and write about, isn’t there? This one seems very interesting.


  17. Listening to the 2nd confession tapes…I’m feeling very uncomfortable about the collegial atmosphere. I also hear a lot of Shan’ann bashing.


  18. ‘Kenney reportedly told investigators that Frazee had called her on that day and said, “You need to get out here now. You’ve got a mess to clean up.”’

    That last bit would’ve pissed me right off. I would have said, “No, YOU’ve got a mess to clean up. Hop to it, buddy!”


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